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What is the Lord’s Consuming Fire

Fires don’t burn forever.  Not in the physical nor in the spiritual.  I want to share some true things that the Lord has revealed to me since He opened my eyes and ears to hear His words that are all spirit.  The fire of God is His word as we will see and it is indeed a blessing for us to learn and be taught to abide in this fire.  Look at these verses from Isaiah 33 which foretell of this mystery.

Isa 33:14 The sinners in Zion are afraid; fearfulness hath surprised the hypocrites. Who among us shall dwell with the devouring fire? who among us shall dwell with everlasting burnings?

Is this speaking of who will be in eternal hell?   Absolutely not.  The people who will be dwelling in everlasting fire are not the wicked sinners as taught by Babylon but are in fact the true people of God who have had the fire clean them up and burn out of them all things that defile.  Look at how the Holy Spirit answered the question about who should dwell in this “everlasting fire”.  It is not people being tormented for their sins.

Isa 33:15 He that walketh righteously, and speaketh uprightly; he that despiseth the gain of oppressions, that shaketh his hands from holding of bribes, that stoppeth his ears from hearing of blood, and shutteth his eyes from seeing evil;

Those that are in this “fire” are the ones walking in righteousness having their old man destroyed, dying daily, getting their mind renewed daily by the fire of God’s word that abides within them.  The people in this fire are God’s very Elect, the ones HE is saving now in this age.  Judgment begins at HIS HOUSE.   This is such a revelation if you can receive it.  The traditions of the orthodox churches have nothing right and the doctrines they teach and we all first learn are truly another gospel and a different gospel.  If you know what bread and water represent in Scriptures then you will see the total apostasy in the professing orthodox churches of men.

Isa 3:1 For, behold, the Lord, the LORD of hosts, doth take away from Jerusalem and from Judah the stay and the staff, the whole stay of bread, and the whole stay of water (NO TRUE DOCTRINES, ALL LIES)

When we are yet carnal and looking at Scripture thru the veil of flesh, we will not see anything correctly even though we all will vehemently argue otherwise.  But a day will come when that veil is removed and then we will truly come to appreciate that the Scriptures don’t mean what they say, they mean what they mean, and that meaning must be given to us by faith.  Christ’s words are not to be taken literally, outwardly by the letter.  They are Spirit.

Joh 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

Mat 13:11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.

So the truth and the knowledge of the mysteries of the kingdom are given to very few as many are called but only a few are chosen of the Lord.  Eternal hell is a lie, one of just millions we all first learn in Babylon.  The fact is that “FIRE” is an attribute of God and HIS WORD, that has both positive and negative applications in Scripture.  The word of God is likened to a sword that has two edges and this refers to the positive and negative applications of all words of Scripture.

Heb 4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

Fire is negative in that it brings destruction and destroys the old man and the carnal mind.  Fire is positive in that it purifies us and burns out all the sin and inequity from our hearts and minds.  But the natural man cannot receive the truth of God’s word, it is foolishness to him.

1Co 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

We are going to look at what “fire” represents in Scriptures and we will hopefully see a new truth that God is not this monster God that we say is a God of love yet who is going to burn billions of people forever without end in a place called eternal hell.  There are some wonderful articles that speak to the truth and expose the lie of eternal torment.  They can be found here:

SALVATION OF ALL

HELL IS NOT ENDLESS PUNISHMENT

I pray you are given eyes to see and ears to hear these truths and will come to believe the good news of the one true gospel.  Let’s begin with some Scriptures that tell us of the character of God.  He is a devouring fire.

Hebrews 12:29 For our God is a devouring fire

Deut 4:24  For the LORD your God is a consuming fire, a jealous God

This is far from the only characteristic of God.  Indeed they are many others and they include such other attributes as love, mercy, and long suffering to name a few.  So carnal men make the mistake of twisting Scriptures to their own destruction. It is the sum of God’s word that represents the truth.

Psa 119:160 The sum of Your word is truth

2Pe 1:20 knowing this first, that no prophecy of Scripture is of any private interpretation,

Yet carnal men have taken Scriptures by themselves, violating these two principles of God’s word and to the exclusion of other Scripture have invented their own doctrines.  Doctrines and spiritual truths we take to heart are what we eat spiritually speaking and when we do this in Babylon, we are making our own bread and have not the doctrines of Jesus Christ.

Isa 4:1 And in that day seven women shall take hold of one man, saying, We will eat our own bread, and wear our own apparel: only let us be called by thy name, to take away our reproach.

With 2,000 years of Apostasy behind us, carnal man has truly maligned the nature and character of our great God.  Deceivers have only waxed worse and worse, deceiving and being deceived.

2Ti 3:13 But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.

The doctrine of eternal torment and man’s free will to choose God are gigantic doctrines of devils which point away from the Cross and the Lord Jesus Christ.  Such doctrines do not conform one to true godliness but instead keep the beast that all men are safely enthroned in our hearts in the place of the real Jesus.  This is not somebody else or some man to come in the future, this is you and me and all men.

Ecc 3:18 I said in mine heart concerning the estate of the sons of men, that God might manifest them, and that they might see that they themselves are beasts.

2Th 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

Rev 13:11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.

Fire is the instrument of Judgment

Fire, which stands for the WORD of GOD is what brings judgment upon us.   And hopefully we do know that Jesus Christ is this WORD and that He came to save the world and will do so in due time by the process of judgement.

Joh 12:47-48 And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.  He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.

This coming of Christ to us a second time is very bad news for the old man but for the new man that the Lord is bringing forth, it is very good news.  It is the love of God in action as He remakes us and chastens us with His grace.

Matthew 3:10-11 Therefore every tree which does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance, but He who is coming after me is mightier than I, whose sandals I am not worthy to carry. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire.

Heb 9:28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.

Every son God receives in this age is scourged with this fire.  This is the true baptism into Christ’s death and it comes from the Almighty as the destruction of our flesh and carnal mind.   This is completely opposite of what Babylon teaches us.  Here is what the word of God working in our lives works.

Heb 12:6 For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.

1Pe 4:12 Beloved, think it not strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened unto you:

Act 14:22 Confirming the souls of the disciples, and exhorting them to continue in the faith, and that we must through much tribulation enter into the kingdom of God.

The judgment of God is said to be sweeter than honey for the new man and it begins at the house of God.  It is a blessing for the fire of God to come upon us and burn out all that defiles.  Eternal torment is such a damnable heresy.

Psa 19:9-10 The fear of the LORD is clean, enduring for ever: the judgments of the LORD are true and righteous altogether. More to be desired are they than gold, yea, than much fine gold: sweeter also than honey and the honeycomb.

1Pe 4:17  For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God:

God’s love converts all His enemies, which is all that are carnal minded at enmity with God, into His friends.  The vehicle for this conversion and transformation is the righteous judgment of God.

Psa 66:3 Say unto God, How terrible art thou in thy works! through the greatness of thy power shall thine enemies submit themselves unto thee.

The day of the Lord is this day of judgment where in the fire of God will work its wonderful work in us and destroy the old man and bring forth the new man

Joe 2:1-3 Blow ye the trumpet in Zion, and sound an alarm in my holy mountain: let all the inhabitants of the land tremble: for the day of the LORD cometh,for it is nigh at hand;   A day of darkness and of gloominess, a day of clouds and of thick darkness, as the morning spread upon the mountains: a great people and a strong; there hath not been ever the like, neither shall be any more after it, even to the years of many generations. A fire devoureth before them; and behind them aflame burneth: the land is as the garden of Eden before them, and behind them a desolate wilderness; yea, and nothing shall escape them.

Fire is good to the new man and very bad for the old man and carnal mind.  These words of Christ speak of His wonderful works to the children of men.  This is how we are sanctified, it is thru the process of coming thru the fire.

Mat 7:19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. 

Mat 13:40 As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.

Even this verse from Matthew, always misquoted due to the carnal translation of “aionious” as everlasting; speaks of God’s chastening grace that will save all men in the end.  Being sent into the lake of fire is how all men except God’s very Elect will be saved in the 2nd resurrection.

Mat 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, (age abiding) prepared for the devil and his angels:

Rev 19:20  And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

Do any research and you will see that brimstone is a purifying agent which is the very purpose of God’s fires.   I hope you are beginning to see that the fire of God is what brings judgment to us.  It is very good yet we will never be judged unless and until we can hear the words of the Lord in Spirit.  We must have ears to hear and we only get them in the last days of our carnal age when judgment comes upon us.

Joh 12:48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.

Fire is God’s instrument of salvation and that simply is HIS WORD, which must be heard with God given ears to hear to begin to work its purposes in our lives.  That purpose will be our sanctification.

1 COR 3:13-15  each one’s work will become clear; for the Day will declare it, because it will be revealed by fire; and the fire will test each one’s work, of what sort it is.  14 If anyone’s work which he has built on it endures, he will receive a reward. 15 If anyone’s work is burned, he will suffer loss; but he himself will be saved, yet so as through fire.

Maybe now you can understand the Psalm 19 that spoke of God’s judgments as sweeter than honey and more desirable than gold.  God’s purposes with fire is always for good.  The belief of a fire that never goes out and burns without end is not in the Scriptures and is an invention of the carnal mind adopted from ancient pagan doctrines.  All men shall be saved, that is the promise of God and that salvation will come by the very same fire the blind multitudes of orthodox Christianity claim will burn people in hell forever and ever.

God Gets What He Wants

The will of God is always getting done in everyone’s life everyday all the time with no exceptions.  The will of God is for all men to come to repentance and be saved,  and it will happen right on HIS schedule.  Here is a real gem of a verse so few can receive,

Job 23:13 But he is in one mind, and who can turn him? and what his soul desireth, even that he doeth.

He is the LORD and called the Almighty and in Him, we live and have our very being.

Act 17:28 For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring.

This is what God wants and He will get and His word, the fire will perform its work in the appointed times for each of us.

2Pe 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

God is longsuffering, He is patient, His mercy endures forever.  He is not waiting on any man to choose Him, God is working all things for the council of His will.

Eph 1:11 In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will:

Pro 16:9 A man’s heart deviseth his way: but the LORD directeth his steps.

Isa 64:8 But now, O LORD, thou art our father; we are the clay, and thou our potter; and we all are the work of thy hand.

Joh 15:5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.

Fire Cast Unto the Earth

Jesus Christ will ultimately be the Savior of the whole world but He is not now saving the entire world.  For now and in each generation since Christ, His Elect, the few chosen from the many called are who Christ is saving.

Mat 22:14  For many are called, but few are chosen.

The way we are saved is when we are judged as we saw earlier.  This comes when fire is cast onto the earth, which speaks to us, made from dust.  All of Scripture is a parable needs to be applied inwardly first and foremost.  In due time Christ will save all just as promised and as Paul states here:

1Co 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. 

1Co 15:23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ’s at his coming.

 Jesus wanted to get on quickly with building HIS church by bringing judgment via this fire onto the very Elect.  This fire lights our earth on fire when we are given our ears to hear by the precious gift of faith. I have been lit on fire by the power of God.

Luke 12:49I have come to cast fire upon the earth; and how I wish it were already kindled!

Isa 26:9  … for when thy judgments are in the earth, the inhabitants of the world will learn righteousness. 

The carnal mind does not understand that God made us all marred vessels of clay on purpose, only to remake us all in the appointed time of judgment for all.  God’s anger against our rebellion to His ways is all part of His plan to teach us thru His righteous judgments and by doing so we learn good and evil and become like gods.  His anger is used to bring about good which is our salvation!!!!  Oh praise God for those who see this now.  Isaiah the prophet spoke of this as well and this is one of my favorite Scriptures that I now finally truly understand and rejoice over

Isaiah 48:10  Behold, I have refined you, but not as silver; I have tested you in the furnace of affliction.

Being refined in a hot fiery furnace is not fun for the old man.  There is much suffering involved, which is the walk of God’s chosen Elect.  We must suffer as our Lord suffered and it is by this suffering we will learn obedience.

Php 1:29  For unto you it is given in the behalf of Christ, not only to believe on him, but also to suffer for his sake

So much for the false prosperity gospel.  God is not in the flesh blessing business, He is in the business of destroying flesh and blood and remaking us by the fire of His word.

Rev 21:5  And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.

God’s fire is like a refiner’s fire.  Its whole purpose is not to punish people as the demonic doctrine of eternal hell puts forth.  No, God’s purposes are always for good, ALWAYS, and God’s fire is there to draw people to Him and to purify us into the divine nature that is God.  The Prophet Malachi spoke of Jesus coming and likened this to a refiner’s fire.

Malachi 3 – But who can endure the day of His coming? And who can stand when He appears? For He is like a refiner’s fire and like launderers’ soap. 3 He will sit as a refiner and a purifier of silver; He will purify the sons of Levi, And purge them as gold and silver, That they may offer to the Lord An offering in righteousness.

When God puts His spirit in us, He puts in the fire that will consume the adversaries of the Lord.  All the enemies of God and things in our land, which means in our hearts and our minds,  the things  that defile our temples of the Lord will be burnt up eventually thru this process.  This fire cannot be put out by man or his delusion of free will.  It will burn up the tares, which are the false doctrines we believed out of our land.  What God has started in us, He will finish the job. Jeremiah thought he could thwart the will of the Lord just like Jonah did and not speak this word.

Jer 20:9  Then I said, I will not make mention of him, nor speak any more in his name. But his word was in mine heart as a burning fire shut up in my bones, and I was weary with forbearing, and I could not stay.

But as Jeremiah and Jonah both learned, the zeal of the Lord is that word burning in us and it will consume us and purge the old man, that man of sin out of our heart.

Joh 2:17  And his disciples remembered that it was written, The zeal of thine house hath eaten me up.

I hope you have eyes to see clearly the purposes for all of God’s judgments.  They are used to purify His sons and daughters, not to torment them FOREVER.  His anger is but for a short time as the Psalm 30:5 tells us.  The character of God has been greatly stained by carnal man and this doctrine of eternal hell.  You will be ashamed you ever believed it when your eyes are opened to the truth.

The Role of the Priests

Jesus is our HIGH PRIEST and sits in our heavens with the Father.  Priest make a propitiation for sins and Christ was such for not only the sins of His Elect but for the sins of the whole world.

1Jn 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

God’s chosen Elect are the kings and priests of the Lord and if we are found faithful will rule and reign with Him during the Millennium reign on earth.  In the interim we will overcome and gain dominion over sin.

Rev 1:6  And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever

Rev 5:10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the (our) earth.

The role of a priest in Scripture as the sum of thy word tells us is always to put fire on the altar of God.  Let’s look at God’s instructions to His priests.

Leviticus 1 – The sons of Aaron the priest shall put fire on the altar, and lay the wood in order on the fire. 8 Then the priests, Aaron’s sons, shall lay the parts, the head, and the fat in order on the wood that is on the fire upon the altar; 9 but he shall wash its entrails and its legs with water. And the priest shall burn all on the altar as a burnt sacrifice, an offering made by fire, a sweet aroma to the Lord.

The hearts of the people, ours included are the wood as we will see below.  This is nothing more than us becoming a living sacrifice and having the word of God, the fire, burn up our old man.  We die daily as we are crucified with Christ.  This is what the fire does it consumes the lusts of the world, lusts of the eyes and the pride of life in us.  The fire kills us and fulfills our needing to lose our life to gain it.

Mat 10:39 He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it.

God uses His few chosen ones, the very few among the many called, to be the very fire.  The Elect of God that have this fire burning in them are the BODY OF CHRIST.  They are the angels or messengers of God are cast fire down to the earth.  This is all symbolic language that speaks to us speaking His word, that is the fire.

Heb 1:7  And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire. 

Rev 8:5  And the angel took the censer, and filled it with fire of the altar, and cast it into the earth: and there were voices, and thunderings, and lightnings, and an earthquake.

God’s Elect are these angels and are these ministers.  We are the salt of the earth, and we rain fire down on this earth by preaching this gospel.  This applies first to our own earth, inwardly but also to the few sheep and lambs the Lord will send our way.  We feed them His word, which is a fire.

Jeremiah 5:14  Wherefore thus saith the Lord God of hosts, because ye speak this word, behold, I will make my words in thy mouth fire, and this people wood, and it shall devour them.

This is what will turn the hearts of the people back to God when they believe.  The priest of God will never stop speaking words of fire.

Leviticus 6:11-13 and the fire on the altar shall be kept burning on it; it shall not be put out. And the priest shall burn wood on it every morning, and lay the burnt offering in order on it; and he shall burn on it the fat of the peace offerings. 13 A fire shall always be burning on the altar; it shall never go out. 

This is the ETERNAL FIRE,  not some made up eternal torment.  We know a literal fire burns no more on an altar in physical Israel.  This is speaking of the WORD of God pricking the hearts of His people.  God has raised forth in each generation those He has chosen to as priests on His kingdom.

Fires Consume The Fuel Given To Burn

This true gospel is a fire when we are given ears to hear it in truth and in spirit.  The hearts and mind of carnal man is the wood.  The words of Jesus are eternal life and when they go out they never return to Him void if and when they are heard with God given ears to hear.  These words of fire will accomplish all of His divine purposes in their appointed time. The carnal man has looked at the book of revelation thru fleshly eyes.  They will use this verse that follows to support a total unbiblical view of an eternal torment.  But they are yet carnal and know not the true heavenly things of God.  Only God can give eyes to see these things.

Revelation 14:9-11 – If anyone worships the beast and his image, and receives his mark on his forehead or on his hand, 10 he himself shall also drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out full strength into the cup of His indignation. He shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. 11 And the smoke of their torment ascends forever and ever; and they have no rest day or night, who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name.”

This verse is speaking to the righteous judgments of God that are already being experiences in the hearts and minds of HIS Elect, upon where judgment must begin.   Those judgments, which are pure and which are likened to honey and even pure gold.  The torment is in the hearts of men who must die to themselves and their self will so God can give them the new heart and pour His love into them.  This is the suffering of the old man and the process of being crucified with Christ.  The time period is not forever and ever, it says the eons of the eons and it means an age lasting period of time God has ordained for each of us.  But eventually ALL THE WOOD will be burnt up.

Pro 26:20 Where no wood is, there the fire goeth out: so where there is no talebearer, the strife ceaseth.

Psa_106:18  And a fire was kindled in their company; the flame burned up the wicked. Job_31:12  For it is a fire that consumeth to destruction, and would root out all mine increase.

Fires consumes and destroys the old man, the beast within, the carnal mindedness that represents all of us in the flesh.  When these enemies of God and the carnal mind is at enmity with God, is burned up, then salvation comes. We overcome sin in our lives, getting dominion over sin via the earnest deposit, the down payment we have been given with Christ working in us, the hope of glory.

1 COR 3:13-15 each one’s work will become clear; for the Day will declare it, because it will be revealed by fire; and the fire will test each one’s work, of what sort it is.  14 If anyone’s work which he has built on it endures, he will receive a reward. 15 If anyone’s work is burned, he will suffer loss; but he himself will be saved, yet so as through fire.

The Lord will accomplish His purposes and will remake us all into new vessels. He does this with His word, the fire of God.

Lam_4:11  The LORD hath accomplished his fury; he hath poured out his fierce anger, and hath kindled a fire in Zion, and it hath devoured the foundations thereof.  Eze_22:31  Therefore have I poured out mine indignation upon them; I have consumed them with the fire of my wrath: (THE OLD MAN IS DESTROYED PRAISE GOD)

These verses actually speak to the good news, the wonderful works of God to the children of men.  In the end God’s love wins out and all men will be saved.  It is by the crucifixion of Christ in us that we shall be saved in our appointed times.  We must follow the Lord and go thru the process of judgment and become a living sacrifice to be saved in this life and then we must endure to the end and be found faithful.  This fiery process is painful for the old man but it is by this fire that all the carnal thoughts and doctrines, THE WOOD, is burned up.  What will remain is the pure gold refined in God’s furnace.

Eternal hellfire is a lie and another jesus!!!!!  Here is the truth about how long the judgment of God will last. The “eternal” fire that brought judgment to Sodom and Gomorrha are not burning today.

Jud 1:7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

The church fell away from the truth before the Bible was even finished being written.  Doctrines such as eternal torment have simply been passed down for centuries leaving the carnal minded KJV translators no choice but to take words like Aion and Aionios and mistranslated them into eternal and everlasting.  Here is a short article that shows this egregious error that has helped keep the multitudes blinded to the true Jesus.

AION AND AIONIOS MISTRANSLATED

But far greater glory remains for those who come to know God in this age.  Such will not work via the strength of their flesh or the delusion of free will for their salvation.  We will strive to stay on the narrow path and work out our own salvation, knowing that it is God who is now doing the work in us.

Php 2:12 Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling. 

Php 2:13  For it is God (not you, not your free will) which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure. 

Those precious few given the gift of faith (God’s Elect) will be striving to be found worthy to win the prize, to receive the reward of being in the first resurrection.

Php 3:13  Brethren, I count not myself to have apprehended: but this one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind, and reaching forth unto those things which are before,

Php 3:14  I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus.

So this I press onward for the mark and this HIGHER CALLING of God, that is given to just a few.  Many will see their works burned up and exposed for the false gospel and other jesus’s they followed.  But they all shall yet be saved in the very end.  All God’s promises will come to pass.

When something is consumed it disappears and ceases to exist.  Hallelujah, death shall be no more!!  The result of this is that all things will be restored to a pure, divine nature which defines the awesome God that I now serve.  I cannot wait.

1 COR 15:54-57 “Death is swallowed up in victory.” 55 “O Death, where is your sting? O Hades, where is your victory?” 56 The sting of death is sin, and the strength of sin is the law. 57 But thanks be to God, who gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.

Thank you Jesus for kindling your fire on this earth.  Thank you Lord.   I leave you with a Psalm excerpt that sums up the purposes of God’s fires.  This is the good news, the Lord destroying the old man to bring forth the new man.

Psalm 11:5-7 The Lord tests the righteous, but the wicked and the one who loves violence His soul hates.  6 Upon the wicked He will rain coals; Fire and brimstone and a burning wind  shall be the portion of their cup. 7 For the Lord is righteous, He loves righteousness; His countenance beholds the upright God loves righteousness.

God will turn His enemies into His friends.  He is going to make everything and everyone righteous in the end.  His power and His glory truly know no limits.  False teachers will continue to deny the power of God and speak evil of the truth I now share with you.  May those who have ears, hear this word.   I would be happy to assist you and be a helper in your joy of the Lord.

Jer 23:29Is not My word like a fire?” says the LORD, “And like a hammer that breaks the rock in pieces?

Please let me know if any sincere questions or comment here.  I can be reached via email at peterjwilson56@gmail.com

Your Brother in Christ,  Pete

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Hell is Not Endless Punishment

by Mitch Kuhn

Introduction

Most Churches and Pastors today teach that everyone is going to be judged after this life and that they will either enter eternal bliss with God or suffer eternal torment in Hell. I believed these same things since I was a small child and then began to teach others when I realized that there were eternal consequences to these beliefs.

I spent a year as a full time missionary in Pisa, Italy working for Campus Crusade for Christ. I took a year off after my sophomore year of college because the reality of eternal damnation hit me like a ton of bricks. The only logical thing to do in light of my belief in eternal torment was to spend my life telling others about salvation through Christ to avoid hell and dwell in heaven forever.

Most people think that Italy is Catholic, but in reality only the older generations are practicing Catholics. Most young Italians think that the bible is a bunch of fairy tales. As we began to talk with students at the University of Pisa it became abundantly clear that they could not understand what we were telling them about salvation through Christ.

Our team leader read us these verses in 2 Corinthians and explained that the only way someone could believe the truth of the Gospel and be saved was if God himself removed the veil from their eyes.

2Co 3:14 But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ.
2Co 3:15 But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart.
2Co 3:16 Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, the vail shall be taken away.

I had never quite realized before how powerful this blindness was. I talked with literally hundreds of students and other Italians that year and only two expressed any interest in what I was preaching. I’m not sure if either of them ever really fully grasped what I was trying to teach them. This verse became quite clear to me.

Joh 6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

I remember sitting in my bed in Pisa realizing that the only reason I was saved from this hell that I so dreaded was that God randomly chose me to be given eyes to see. So a few years later after returning from Italy I had this thought “If Christ died for everyone and if God is the one that opens and closes eyes then why can’t everyone be saved?” This then led to the thought, “does hell really exist as I have been taught?”

I got on the internet and did a search for “hell”. One of the first things I found was a paper by Thomas Thayer written in the 1850s called “The Origin of the Doctrine of Eternal Punishment”. In this profound paper, Mr. Thayer clearly demonstrates that the doctrine of hell and eternal torment was not a Jewish teaching and was most certainly not taught by Christ and the Apostles. While everything that Mr. Thayer says is not true scripturally, he helped to legitimize my thoughts and got me to see that I had been taught pagan lies all of my life and not the true doctrine of Christ.

In the following pages I’m going to show you from the scriptures how eternal torment was never mentioned anywhere in the Old Testament but was a very well developed theology among pagan cultures that significantly influenced the Jews and early Christians. The true Gospel of God, that all will be saved, has been hidden from the masses of Christianity. I hope and pray that this study will be used to set you free and open your eyes to the truth.

Adam and Eve

Here is the warning that God gives to Adam and Eve about what will happen if they disobey and break his command to not eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

Gen 2:17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

He simply said “you will die”, and nothing more.

Here is the description of the punishments given to Adam, Eve, and the serpent.

Gen 3:14 And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:

Gen 3:16 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.
Gen 3:17 And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it:cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life;
Gen 3:18 Thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee; and thou shalt eat the herb of the field;
Gen 3:19 In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.

Notice that all of the punishments are temporal in nature, meaning that they are not said to last forever. In verse 19 God even says “for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.” This is a very odd way to explain being burned in hell forever…if that was indeed the true fact of Adam and Eve.

Cain

Let’s see if the first murderer in the bible was warned of this eternal torment to come.

Gen 4:10 And he said, What hast thou done? the voice of thy brother’s blood crieth unto me from the ground.
Gen 4:11 And now art thou cursed from the earth, which hath opened her mouth to receive thy brother’s blood from thy hand;
Gen 4:12 When thou tillest the ground, it shall not henceforth yield unto thee her strength; a fugitive and a vagabond shalt thou be in the earth.
Gen 4:13 And Cain said unto the LORD, My punishment is greater than I can bear.

Cain is quite dismayed over his punishment which involves difficulty in cultivating the ground along with being a fugitive and vagabond in the earth, but there is absolutely no mention of eternal torment.

So God has some mercy on Cain and says that he will avenge anyone that would kill him seven fold, and gives him a mark to keep him safe.

Gen 4:14 Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth; and from thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth; and it shall come to pass, that every one that findeth me shall slay me.
Gen 4:15 And the LORD said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And the LORD set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him.

God had mercy upon the first murderer and reduced his concern of being killed by others others, so why would he not have mercy upon those who cry unto him for all of eternity out of the torturous fires of hell? Do you see the terrible inconsistency here if God will torment some forever?

Noah and the Flood

God was angry with the sin upon the earth in Noah’s time and causes a world-wide flood to destroy everyone but Noah and his family.

Gen 6:11 The earth also was corrupt before God, and the earth was filled with violence.
Gen 6:12 And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth.
Gen 6:13 And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth.

God does not say that he will torment these disobedient and sinful people in hell for all eternity. He simply says that he will destroy them.

Gen 7:23 And every living substance was destroyed which was upon the face of the ground, both man, and cattle, and the creeping things, and the fowl of the heaven; and they were destroyed from the earth: and Noah only remained alive, and they that were with him in the ark.

Sodom and Gomorrah

What do we learn from Sodom and Gomorrah?

Gen 18:20 And the LORD said, Because the cry of Sodom and Gomorrah is great, and because their sin is very grievous;
Gen 18:21 I will go down now, and see whether they have done altogether according to the cry of it, which is come unto me; and if not, I will know.

Gen 19:24 Then the LORD rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the LORD out of heaven;
Gen 19:25 And he overthrew those cities, and all the plain, and all the inhabitants of the cities,…

Again there is no mention of eternal torment after their destruction. Sodom and Gomorrah are actually mentioned in the book of Jude in the New Testament.

Jud 1:7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

This verse is often used to support the doctrine of eternal hell fire, but is the city of Sodom and Gomorrah still burning with fire today? Obviously no it’s not, so this example demonstrates that the punishment is not eternal.

Here is the truth of the matter:

Pro 26:20 Where no wood is, there the fire goeth out: so where there is no talebearer, the strife ceaseth.

Once the wicked city and its inhabitance were destroyed, the fire went out. We will cover this in detail later in the study, but the word translated as “eternal” in most English translations is the Greek word “aionios” and does NOT mean eternal. It means lasting for an unspecified period of time. It is better translated in Young’s Literal as “of fire age-during”.

The fire of God’s judgment burns until all the evil is gone and then the judgment stops and we are SAVED.

1Co 3:15 If any man’s work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.

What’s being burned is our evil works, not a literal person burning in hell fire.

Curses in Deuteronomy

When God gave Israel the law, he described in detail the consequences for disobedience, but there is no mention of eternal torment. I’m taking the time to show you all of these verses because I want it to be abundantly clear that eternal torment is a pagan doctrine.

Deu 28:14 And thou shalt not go aside from any of the words which I command thee this day, to the right hand, or to the left, to go after other gods to serve them.
Deu 28:15 But it shall come to pass, if thou wilt not hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to observe to do all his commandments and his statutes which I command thee this day; that all these curses shall come upon thee, and overtake thee:
Deu 28:16 Cursed shalt thou be in the city, and cursed shalt thou be in the field.
Deu 28:17 Cursed shall be thy basket and thy store.
Deu 28:18 Cursed shall be the fruit of thy body, and the fruit of thy land, the increase of thy kine, and the flocks of thy sheep.
Deu 28:19 Cursed shalt thou be when thou comest in, and cursed shalt thou be when thou goest out.
Deu 28:20 The LORD shall send upon thee cursing, vexation, and rebuke, in all that thou settest thine hand unto for to do, until thou be destroyed, and until thou perish quickly; because of the wickedness of thy doings, whereby thou hast forsaken me.

What about Suicide?

Some people teach that that suicide is the worst sin you can possibly commit. Was there any warning of eternal torment for committing this grievous act?

2Sa 17:23 And when Ahithophel saw that his counsel was not followed, he saddled his ass, and arose, and gat him home to his house, to his city, and put his household in order, and hanged himself, and died, and was buried in the sepulchre of his father.

Again, there is no mention of the eternal fate of this person. That seems like quite a grievous omission if eternal torment is in fact true.

Just Recompense

Let’s consider for a moment the justice of God. In Hebrews we are told that every transgression and disobedience received a just recompense of reward.

Heb 2:2 For if the word spoken by angels was stedfast, and every transgression and disobedience received a just recompence of reward;

In the courts of the world, the punishment is equivalent to the crime committed. The worst thing you can do in this life is kill another human being and the punishment for this in many places is death. What could man possibly do that deserves ETERNAL TORMENT? Is God not capable of teaching us to be obedient and delivering us from our evil thoughts and actions? Is he less just than the carnal men that rule this world?

The Hebrew Word for Hell

The word translated as hell in the Old Testament is the Hebrew word “sheol”, H7585. In the King James Version it is translated as follows:

31 times: grave
31 times: hell
3 times: pit

These words most often are the place of the dead which is simply the grave.

Gen 37:35 And all his sons and all his daughters rose up to comfort him; but he refused to be comforted; and he said, For I will go down into the grave unto my son mourning. Thus his father wept for him.

Job 7:9 As the cloud is consumed and vanisheth away: so he that goeth down to the graveshall come up no more.

This word is also used to express distress or deliverance from great danger.

Job 17:11 My days are past, my purposes are broken off, even the thoughts of my heart.
Job 17:12 They change the night into day: the light is short because of darkness.
Job 17:13 If I wait, the grave is mine house: I have made my bed in the darkness.
Job 17:14 I have said to corruption, Thou art my father: to the worm, Thou art my mother, and my sister.

Psa 30:2 O LORD my God, I cried unto thee, and thou hast healed me.
Psa 30:3 O LORD, thou hast brought up my soul from the grave: thou hast kept me alive, that I should not go down to the pit.

David did not die but is using the grave to express the great danger that he was delivered from by the Lord. He even says in verse 3 that he has been kept alive so that he should not go down to the pit.

Job even asks God to “hide him in the grave” from all the wrath and trials that are upon him. If this is a place of eternal torment then why would Job be asking God to hid him there?

Job 14:13 O that thou wouldest hide me in the grave, that thou wouldest keep me secret, until thy wrath be past, that thou wouldest appoint me a set time, and remember me!

Now let’s look at some verses where the KJV translates sheol as hell.

Deu 32:22 For a fire is kindled in mine anger, and shall burn unto the lowest hell, and shall consume the earth with her increase, and set on fire the foundations of the mountains.
Deu 32:23 I will heap mischiefs upon them; I will spend mine arrows upon them.
Deu 32:24 They shall be burnt with hunger, and devoured with burning heat, and with bitter destruction: I will also send the teeth of beasts upon them, with the poison of serpents of the dust.
Deu 32:25 The sword without, and terror within, shall destroy both the young man and the virgin, the suckling also with the man of gray hairs.
Deu 32:26 I said, I would scatter them into corners, I would make the remembrance of them to cease from among men:

So with a mind tainted with the pagan doctrine of eternal torment, these verses in Deuteronomy seem to be referring to there being fire and burning in hell (the grave). However, look as verse 24, “they shall be BURNT with hunger”. God is using fire and the grave (hell) just like David does in Psalms, as a way to describe great trials. The chapter continues on describing very physical and temporal consequences for disobedience.

All of the following verses would make much more sense to be translated as “grave”, because saying the English word “hell” brings to mind all of the pagan doctrines that are not a part of Jewish doctrine.

2Sa 22:6 The sorrows of hell compassed me about; the snares of death prevented me;

Job 11:8 It is as high as heaven; what canst thou do? deeper than hell; what canst thou know?

Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God.

Psa 16:10 For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.

Moses was Aware of Endless Punishment

Moses was taught all the ways of the Egyptians, and yet never mentions any of their pagan doctrines related to eternal torment.

Act 7:21 And when he was cast out, Pharaoh’s daughter took him up, and nourished him for her own son.
Act 7:22 And Moses was learned in all the wisdom of the Egyptians, and was mighty in words and in deeds.

Here is a quote that describes the Egyptian teachings on the afterlife.

Those souls whose scales of good had outweighed their scales of bad would be granted permission to enter the blissful afterlife. On the other hand those whose scales of bad deeds were heavy would be handed over to the Devourer of the Dead, which was the Egyptian equivalent of hell.” (http://www.kwintessential.co.uk/articles/egypt/Egyptian-Afterlife-Beliefs/3182)

So Moses was well aware of this doctrine of eternal torment and never made any mention of it in his writings for Israel. Moses did however consistently warn the people to not go after the false gods of other nations, of which he was well aware. This is compelling evidence that eternal torment was certainly NOT a Jewish teaching.

Jewish Teachings on the Afterlife

The Jewish teachings of afterlife were actually quite vague. There are a number of references to a future resurrection, but no detailed teachings on the subject. Here are some of those verses:

Psa 16:10 For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell (Sheol); neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.

Psa 49:15 But God will redeem my soul from the power of the grave: for he shall receive me. Selah.

Hos 13:14 I will ransom them from the power of the grave; I will redeem them from death: O death, I will be thy plagues; O grave, I will be thy destruction: repentance shall be hid from mine eyes.

Isa 25:8 He will swallow up death in victory; and the Lord GOD will wipe away tears from off all faces; and the rebuke of his people shall he take away from off all the earth: for the LORD hath spoken it.

Eze 37:1 The hand of the LORD was upon me, and carried me out in the spirit of the LORD, and set me down in the midst of the valley which was full of bones,
Eze 37:2 And caused me to pass by them round about: and, behold, there were very many in the open valley; and, lo, they were very dry.
Eze 37:3 And he said unto me, Son of man, can these bones live? And I answered, O Lord GOD, thou knowest.
Eze 37:4 Again he said unto me, Prophesy upon these bones, and say unto them, O ye dry bones, hear the word of the LORD.
Eze 37:5 Thus saith the Lord GOD unto these bones; Behold, I will cause breath to enter into you, and ye shall live:
Eze 37:6 And I will lay sinews upon you, and will bring up flesh upon you, and cover you with skin, and put breath in you, and ye shall live; and ye shall know that I am the LORD.

Heathen Doctrine of Eternal Punishment

After Israel was set free from slavery in Egypt, they were exposed to different variations of the doctrine of eternal torment through many different cultures. Here is a quote from Mr. Thayer.

“Among the ancient pagans, the belief in a hell of some sort was very general, if not universal. It was known by various names, as Orcus, Erebus, Tartarus, and Infernus or Inferna, whence our expression “infernal regions,” &c. The views current respecting it were different at different periods, and among different nations, according to the degree of civilization, and the genius of the people.” (http://aionios.com/study_notes/origin.of.endless.punishment.pdf Pg. 34)

Virgil wrote the Aeneid between 29 and 19 BC. In his book he quite vividly describes Hell.

“At Hell’s dread mouth a thousand monsters wait; – Grief weeps, and Vengeance bellows in the gate; Base Want, low Fear, and Famine’s lawless rage. And pale Disease, and slow, repining Age: Fierce, formidable Fiends the portals keep, With Pain, Toil, Death, and Death’s half-brother Sleep. There Joys, embittered by Remorse, appear, Daughters of Guilt; here storms destructive War. Mad Discord there her snaky tresses tore; Here stretched on iron beds the Furies roar; And close by Lerna’s hissing monster stands Briareus dreadful with a hundred hands; There stern Geryon raged; and all around Fierce Harpies screamed, and direful Gorgons frowned.” (Pitt’s Aeneid, vi 385, &c.)

Here are two quotes from Mr. Thayer that describe the prevalence of these doctrines among pagan cultures and their use to control the common people, most of which originated in Egypt.

“Anyone at all familiar with the writings of the ancient Greeks or Romans, cannot fail to note how often it is admitted by them that the national religions were the inventions of the legislator and the priest, for the purpose of governing and restraining the common people. Hence, all the early lawgivers claim to have had communications with the gods, who aided them in the preparation of their codes. Zoroaster claimed to have received his laws from a divine source; Lycurgus obtained his from Apollo, Minos of Crete from Jupiter, Numa of Rome from Egeria, Zaleucus from Minerva, &c. The object of this sacred fraud was to impress the minds of the multitude with religious awe, and command a more ready obedience on their part. Hence Augustine says, in his “City of God,” “This seems to have been done on no other account, but as it was the business of princes, out of their wisdom and civil prudence, to deceive the people in their religion; princes, under the name of religion, persuaded the people to believe those things true, which they themselves knew to be idle fables; by this means, for their own ease in government, tying them the more closely to civil society.” B.iV32 (http://aionios.com/study_notes/origin.of.endless.punishment.pdfPg.36)

Egypt has been called the “Mother of Superstitions,” and her whole religious history shows the propriety of the appellation. Greeks and Romans, Lawgivers and Philosophers, acknowledge their indebtedness to her in this respect, and freely credit her with the original invention of the fables and terrors of the invisible world; though it must be allowed that they have improved somewhat upon the hints given, and shown a wonderful inventive faculty of their own. (http://aionios.com/study_notes/origin.of.endless.punishment.pdf Pg. 37)

Israel was surrounded by pagan nations after being set free from Egypt and had a habit of following after their gods. Thus, the need for these kinds of warnings, are in Deuteronomy.

Deu 6:13 Thou shalt fear the LORD thy God, and serve him, and shalt swear by his name.
Deu 6:14 Ye shall not go after other gods, of the gods of the people which are round about you;
Deu 6:15 (For the LORD thy God is a jealous God among you) lest the anger of the LORD thy God be kindled against thee, and destroy thee from off the face of the earth.
Deu 6:16 Ye shall not tempt the LORD your God, as ye tempted him in Massah.
Deu 6:17 Ye shall diligently keep the commandments of the LORD your God, and his testimonies, and his statutes, which he hath commanded thee.

Northern Israel was taken captive by the Assyrians in 722 BC, while the southern kingdom was captured by the Babylonians in 586 BC. Israel was no longer a sovereign nation and was just passed from one empire to the next. Alexander the Great and the Greek empire came into power in 333 BC, and then Judea was made a Roman province in 6 AD. During all of Christ’s life Israel was under Roman rule.

The Jews struggled to obey God’s commands and not follow after other gods when they were an independent people, and this undoubtedly got worse when they were taken into captivity. The last book of the Old Testament was written around 445 BC, after the temple in Jerusalem had been rebuilt. From 445 BC until John the Baptist coming on the scene to prepare the way for Christ, there were no prophets in Israel.

The prophets played a very important role in rebuking the people for their disobedience and leading them back to the Lord. Without their presence it was far easier for Israel to follow after other gods and absorb pagan doctrine.

Malachi was the last book of the Old Testament written around 445 B.C. and even at that time that there was already tremendous corruption and disobedience in Israel including the priests. If the priests were corrupt then what does that say about the condition of the people they were supposed to be teaching.

Mal 2:7 For the priest’s lips should keep knowledge, and they should seek the law at his mouth: for he is the messenger of the LORD of hosts.
Mal 2:8 But ye are departed out of the way; ye have caused many to stumble at the law; ye have corrupted the covenant of Levi, saith the LORD of hosts.
Mal 2:9 Therefore have I also made you contemptible and base before all the people, according as ye have not kept my ways, but have been partial in the law.

Here is a quote from Thayer regarding the great corruption of the Jews during the silence of the prophets.

“It is allowed on all hands that the Jews in our Savior’s time believed the doctrine of future endless punishment; that it was a part of the common faith. Of course, as the doctrine is nowhere to be found in their Scriptures, the question arises, where did they find it? At the close of the Old Testament Scriptures they did not believe it; at the beginning of the New they did. Between these two points of time there was an interval of some four hundred years, during which there was no prophet in Israel. Malachi was the last of the Hebrew prophets, and from him to Christ there stretches this waste period of four centuries, when the Jews were without any divine teacher or revelation from heaven. And all this while they were in constant and close intercourse with the heathen, especially the Egyptians, the Greeks and Romans, who held the doctrine in review as part of the national faith. From these, therefore, they must have borrowed it, for it is certain that they could not have obtained it from any inspired source, since none was open to them during this period.

Beside, they were, all this time, as one might infer from their previous history, departing further and further from the law, and growing more and more corrupt; till at last they had, as the Savior charges upon them, utterly made void the law of God by their traditions. Mark viiI 9, 13.” (Pg. 45)

Mar 7:5 Then the Pharisees and scribes asked him, Why walk not thy disciples according to the tradition of the elders, but eat bread with unwashen hands?
Mar 7:6 He answered and said unto them, Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me.
Mar 7:7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
Mar 7:8 For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do.
Mar 7:9 And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.

Mar 7:13 Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.

Here are a few more quotes about the corruption of the Jews from Mr. Thayer and sources that he quotes in his paper.

“This corruption, which began in the time of Ptolemy Philadelphus (B.C. 283), soon spread into Palestine, and everywhere disseminated among the Jews a taste for metaphysical subtleties and mysteries.” Again, he says: “Under the Ptolemies the Jews began to learn the Egyptian and Oriental theology, and to incorporate those foreign dogmas with their ancient creed.” And once more he says: “Some among them were so unfaithful to their country and their God, as to court the favor of the conqueror (Antiochus Epiphanes), by mixing Pagan tenets and superstitions with their own sacred doctrines and ceremonies.” (http://aionios.com/study_notes/origin.of.endless.punishment.pdf Pg 46-47)

“Josephus, who wrote about one hundred and fifty years later, says of the Pharisees: “They believe that souls have an immortal vigor in them, and that under the earth (in Sheol or Hades) there will be rewards and punishments, according as they have lived virtuously or viciously in this life. The latter are to be detained in an everlasting prison; but the former shall have power to revive and live again.” This, it will be seen, is a great advance on the Old Testament Sheol or under-world. We find nothing of this sort among the patriarchs or prophets.” (http://aionios.com/study_notes/origin.of.endless.punishment.pdf Pg 48)

“From the time of the captivity, more especially from the time of the subjection of the Jews, first to the Macedonian empire, and afterwards to the Roman, as they had a closer intercourse with Pagans, they insensibly imbibed many of their sentiments, particularly on those points where their law was silent, 10 and wherein by consequence they considered themselves as at greater freedom. On the subject of a future state, we find a considerable difference in the popular opinions of the Jews, in our Savior’s time, from those which prevailed in the days of the ancient prophets. As both Greeks and Romans had adopted the notion that the ghosts of the departed were susceptible both of enjoyment and of suffering, they were led to suppose a sort of retribution in that state, for their merit or demerit in the present. The Jews did not adopt the pagan fables on this subject, nor did they express themselves, entirely, in the same manner; but the general train of thinking in both came pretty much to coincide.” (Mosheim’s Eccl. Hist. centuries iiI, iV Murdock’s Translation.)

Here is a further description of the Pharisees and Sadducees. There is also some information on the Essenes, also called the Dead Sea Sect.

The Pharisees

The most important of the three were the Pharisees because they are the spiritual fathers of modern Judaism. Their main distinguishing characteristic was a belief in an Oral Law that God gave to Moses at Sinai along with the Torah. The Torah or Written Law was akin to the U.S. Constitution in the sense that it set down a series of laws that were open to interpretation. The Pharisees believed that God also gave Moses the knowledge of what these laws meant and how they should be applied. This oral tradition was codified and written down roughly three centuries later in what is known as the Talmud.

The Pharisees also maintained that an afterlife existed and that God punished the wicked and rewarded the righteous in the world to come. They also believed in a messiah who would herald an era of world peace.

Pharisees were, in a sense, blue-collar Jews who adhered to the tenets developed after the destruction of the Temple; that is, such things as individual prayer and assembly in synagogues.

The Sadducees

The Sadducees were elitists who wanted to maintain the priestly caste, but they were also liberal in their willingness to incorporate Hellenism into their lives, something the Pharisees opposed. The Sadducees rejected the idea of the Oral Law and insisted on a literal interpretation of the Written Law; consequently, they did not believe in an afterlife, since it is not mentioned in the Torah. The main focus of Sadducee life was rituals associated with the Temple.

The (sect of the) Sadducees disappeared around 70 A.D., after the destruction of the Second Temple (see below). None of the writings of the Sadducees survived, so the little we know about them comes from their Pharisaic opponents.

These two “parties” served in the Great Sanhedrin, a kind of Jewish Supreme Court made up of 71 members whose responsibility was to interpret civil and religious laws. (http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/sadducees_pharisees_essenes.html)

The Dead Sea Sect

A third faction, the Essenes, emerged out of disgust with the other two. This sect believed the others had corrupted the city and the Temple. They moved out of Jerusalem and lived a monastic life in the desert, adopting strict dietary laws and a commitment to celibacy.

The Essenes are particularly interesting to scholars because they are believed to be an offshoot of the group that lived in Qumran, near the Dead Sea. In 1947, a Bedouin shepherd stumbled into a cave containing various ancient artifacts and jars containing manuscripts describing the beliefs of the sect and events of the time.

The most important documents, often only parchment fragments that had to be meticulously restored, were the earliest known copies of the Old Testament. The similarity of the substance of the material found in the scrolls to that in the modern scriptures has confirmed the authenticity of the Bible used today.

For these very reasons Christ spoke this warning to his disciples.

Mat 16:6 Then Jesus said unto them, Take heed and beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees.
Mat 16:7 And they reasoned among themselves, saying, It is because we have taken no bread.
Mat 16:8 Which when Jesus perceived, he said unto them, O ye of little faith, why reason ye among yourselves, because ye have brought no bread?
Mat 16:9 Do ye not yet understand, neither remember the five loaves of the five thousand, and how many baskets ye took up?
Mat 16:10 Neither the seven loaves of the four thousand, and how many baskets ye took up?
Mat 16:11 How is it that ye do not understand that I spake it not to you concerning bread, that ye should beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees?
Mat 16:12 Then understood they how that he bade them not beware of the leaven of bread, but of the doctrine of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees.

I hope that I have demonstrated clearly to you that eternal torment was a pagan doctrine that the Jews adopted from the pagan cultures around them. When Jesus Christ begins his ministry, the religious teachers of Israel, the Pharisees and Sadducees, were deeply corrupted and teaching the traditions of men and not the commands given to their ancestors by God.

Does the New Testament Teach Endless Torment?

When we read most English translations of the bible, the word hell does appear in the New Testament. We immediately apply a pagan understanding to these verses because to anyone that speaks English, hell almost always implies eternal torment in the afterlife.

Here is how many times the work hell appears in various translations:

King James: 23 English
Standard Version: 14
New King James: 13
Young’s Literal: 0
Concordant Literal: 0

Notice how the literal translations NEVER use the word hell. This is because there are other English words that better represent what was being said in Greek and do not bring with them the preconceived notion of eternal torture. We will cover the Greek words translated as hell in just a moment.

We must keep in mind that everything in the New Testament is based on the Old Testament. In the time of Jesus and the Apostles, the only scriptures they had were those of the Old Testament, until some of the Apostles letters began to be circulated. Therefore they are constantly quoting the Old Testament scriptures and explaining the mystery that had been hidden behind the symbols of the Old Testament.

Col 1:25 Whereof I am made a minister, according to the dispensation of God which is given to me for you, to fulfil the word of God;
Col 1:26 Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints:

1Co 4:6 And these things, brethren, I have in a figure transferred to myself and to Apollos for your sakes; that ye might learn in us not to think of men above that which is written, that no one of you be puffed up for one against another.

What was written? The Old Testament! The phase “it is written” is used often in the New Testament and always referrers to a quote from the Old Testament.

The first recorded words of Jesus’ public ministry were him reading a quote from Isaiah 61:1-2.

Luk 4:16 And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read.
Luk 4:17 And there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet Esaias (Isaiah). And when he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written,
Luk 4:18 The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,
Luk 4:19 To preach the acceptable year of the Lord.

I’m pointing this out because Jesus and the other Apostles were speaking from a Jewish point of view. They believed what was written in the Old Covenant and their understanding of God’s word was not tainted by pagan doctrines. This is very important to understand as we examine the various Greek words translated as hell.

Greek Words Translated as Hell

Hades:

Let’s first look at the word “hades”.
G86
hades hah’-dace
From G1 (as a negative particle) and G1492; properly unseen, that is, “Hades” or the place (state) of departed souls: – grave, hell.

Here is a quote from Mr. Thayer’s paper regarding this word.

“1. HADES. This word occurs eleven times, and is rendered “grave” once, and “hell” ten times. It may be profitable first to consider what one of the most accomplished orthodox scholars says in regard to it. “In my judgment,” says Dr. Campbell, “it ought never in Scripture to be rendered hell, at least in the sense wherein that word is universally understood by Christians. In the Old Testament the corresponding word is Sheol, which signifies the state of the dead in general, without regard to the goodness or badness of the persons, their happiness or misery. It is very plain that neither in the Septuagint version of the Old Testament, nor in the New, does the word hades convey the meaning which the present English word hell, in the Christian usage, always conveys to our minds. The attempt to illustrate this would be unnecessary, as it is hardly now pretended by any critic that this is the acceptation of the term in the Old Testament.” (http://aionios.com/study_notes/origin.of.endless.punishment.pdf Pg. 56)

There are four verses where Jesus himself uses the word hades. He clearly had a Jewish understanding of hades and knew quite well that the Old Testament did not teach eternal torment. He uses this word just like David does in Psalms, to express great calamity.

Mat 11:23 And thou, Capernaum, which art exalted unto heaven, shalt be brought down to hell: for if the mighty works, which have been done in thee, had been done in Sodom, it would have remained until this day.

Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God.

Psa 86:13 For great is thy mercy toward me: and thou hast delivered my soul from the lowest hell.

Remember that David was not resurrected, but rather was delivered from great calamity.

Here is a better translation of these three verses:

Mat 11:23 And thou, Capernaum, which unto the heaven wast exalted, unto hades shalt be brought down, because if in Sodom had been done the mighty works that were done in thee, it had remained unto this day; (YLT)

Psa 9:17 The wicked do turn back to Sheol, All nations forgetting God. (YLT)

Psa 86:13 For Thy kindness is great toward me, And Thou hast delivered my soul from the lowest Sheol. (YLT)

Hades is the Greek equivalent of Sheol, so when Christ is using this word, we must realize that he is referencing the Jewish idea of the grave and not the pagan Greek doctrine of Hades that brings with it the doctrine of eternal torment. It is merely a word used to express great calamity.

One of the most famous verses where Jesus uses the word Hades is in the parable of Lazarus and the rich man. The most important thing to point out is that this is a PARABLE. A parable is a made up story to communicate a point and even if they reference real people these things have not literally happened.

This parable found in Luke 16 is actually one of a series of parables that start in Luke 15.

Luk 15:1 Then drew near unto him all the publicans and sinners for to hear him.
Luk 15:2 And the Pharisees and scribes murmured, saying, This man receiveth sinners, and eateth with them.
Luk 15:3 And he spake this parable unto them, saying, The Pharisees and scribes were in the group hearing these parables and were murmuring against Christ. Then after they overheard another parable that Christ spoke to his disciples, they derided him.
Luk 16:14 And the Pharisees also, who were covetous, heard all these things: and they derided him.

So the parable about Lazarus and rich man was spoken as a rebuke against the Pharisees.

Luk 16:15 And he said unto them, Ye are they which justify yourselves before men; but God knoweth your hearts: for that which is highly esteemed among men is abomination in the sight of God.

Christ commonly spoke parables containing things that were a part of people’s lives. The parable of Lazarus and the rich man was actually a known story among the Jews.

Here is a quote from Mr. Thayer’s paper.

“The parable of the rich man and Lazarus furnishes another example. “And in hell (hades) he lifted up his eyes, being in torment.” It will be remembered that the Jews had borrowed their ideas of torment in a future state from the heathen, and of course they were obliged to borrow their terms to express this. Accordingly, after the manner of the Greeks, Hades, or the place of departed spirits, is represented as receiving all, as Sheol did, good and bad; but we have also the additional idea of separate apartments or districts, divided by a great gulf or river; on one side of which the blessed are located, and on the other side the damned, near enough to see each other, and converse together, as in the case of Abraham and the rich man.

It must also be remembered that this is only a parable, and not a real history; for, as Dr. Whitby affirms, “we find this very parable in the Gemara Babylonicum.” The story was not new, then, not original with Christ, but known among the Jews before He repeated it. He borrowed the parable from them, and employed it to show the judgment which awaited them. He represented the spiritual favors and privileges of the Jews by the wealth and luxury of the rich man, and the spiritual poverty of the Gentiles by the beggary and infirmity of Lazarus; and while the former would be deprived of their privileges and punished for their wickedness, the latter would enjoy the blessings of truth and faith.” (http://aionios.com/study_notes/origin.of.endless.punishment.pdf Pg. 57)

Here is section of the parable in Luke.

Luk 16:22 So it was that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels to Abraham’s bosom. The rich man also died and was buried.
Luk 16:23 And being in torments in Hades, he lifted up his eyes and saw Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.
Luk 16:24 Then he cried and said, ‘Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus that he may dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.’
Luk 16:25 But Abraham said, ‘Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things; but now he is comforted and you are tormented.
Luk 16:26 And besides all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed, so that those who want to pass from here to you cannot, nor can those from there pass to us.

Remember back to what the Pharisees were saying at the beginning of this series of parables.

Luk 15:2 And the Pharisees and scribes murmured, saying, This man receiveth sinners, and eateth with them.

They were the rich man in the parable looking down upon poor Lazarus. Jesus was pointing out they will indeed incur judgment for what they were doing, and he uses a known story to do so. It in no way teaches eternal torment.

Why did Christ speak in parables?

Mat 13:10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?
Mat 13:11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.

Just like the majority of those listening to the parables in Christ’s time did not understand the true meaning, in the same way most Christians today do not understand that this parable is speaking about them and not someone else. This is a parable about you and me.

We are hypocrites just like the Pharisees when we do not realize that we look down upon and despise others.

Mat 7:5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye.

When we have been doing evil and we realize we are suffering the judgments of God for this, we will cry out for mercy just like the rich man.

Luk 16:24 Then he cried and said, ‘Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus that he may dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.’

And we are then told that it is impossible to pass from this side of torment to the other side of peace.

Luk 16:26 And besides all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed, so that those who want to pass from here to you cannot, nor can those from there pass to us. (NKJV)

Notice what Christ says in another parable about a rich man entering heaven.

Mat 19:23 Then Jesus said to His disciples, “Assuredly, I say to you that it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven.
Mat 19:24 And again I say to you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.
Mat 19:25 When His disciples heard it, they were greatly astonished, saying, “Who then can be saved?”
Mat 19:26 But Jesus looked at them and said to them, “With men this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.” (NKJV)

It is impossible to avoid the fiery torment that the rich man suffers, but is this the eternal fire of hell as we have been taught? Fire in the scriptures is used to destroy what is wicked and to purify.

1Co 3:15 If anyone’s work is burned, he will suffer loss; but he himself will be saved, yet soas through fire.

1Pe 4:12 Beloved, do not think it strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened to you;
1Pe 4:13 but rejoice to the extent that you partake of Christ’s sufferings, that when His glory is revealed, you may also be glad with exceeding joy.

Jer 5:14 Therefore thus says the LORD God of hosts: “Because you speak this word, Behold, I will make My words in your mouth fire, And this people wood, And it shall devour them.

So the rich man will actually be saved by the flames, because it will destroy the evil that is within him. The Pharisees hearing these parables had no idea what Christ was saying, because they were thinking physically according to their pagan doctrines. They had not been given the spirit of God to understand the mystery of salvation through judgment.

Let’s now consider the prophecies of Christ not being left in Hades.

Act 2:27 FOR YOU WILL NOT LEAVE MY SOUL IN HADES, NOR WILL YOU ALLOW YOUR HOLY ONE TO SEE CORRUPTION.

Act 2:29 “Men and brethren, let me speak freely to you of the Patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his tomb is with us to this day.
Act 2:30 Therefore, being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to himrthat of the fruit of his body, according to the flesh, He would raise up the Christ to sit on his throne,
Act 2:31 he, foreseeing this, spoke concerning the resurrection of the Christ, that His soul was not left in Hades, nor did His flesh see corruption. (NKJV)

Christ was not delivered from eternal torment in hell and he did not stay in the GRAVE. Remember that Hades is the direct translation of the Hebrew word Sheol which means “the grave”.

Psa 16:10 For You will not leave my soul in Sheol, Nor will You allow Your Holy One to see corruption.

Did you know that death and hell (Hades) will be destroyed?

1Co 15:26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

1Co 15:53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
1Co 15:54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.
1Co 15:55 O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?

Many teach that the lake of fire is hell which to them is a place of eternal torment. Have you ever read these verses?

Rev 20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell (Hades) delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
Rev 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

So death and hell deliver up their dead to be judged, and then death and hell are cast into the lake of fire. We know that death is destroyed, so hell (Hades) must be destroyed as well. If there is no death, and no Hades, then where will people be tortured forever?

The truth is that the judgment we fear is actually what saves us.

Here is a link to a series of studies on the Milk Doctrines found in Hebrews 6. This series explains how judgment is the way God will save all. http://iswasandwillbe.com/articles.php

Gehenna

This word is used 12 times in the New Testament, all of which are spoken by Christ except one use in James.

G1067
ΓEEvva geenna gheh’-en-nah

Of Hebrew origin ([H1516] and [H2011]); valley of (the son of) Hinnom; gehenna (or Ge- Hinnom), a valley of Jerusalem, used (figuratively) as a name for the place (or state) of everlasting punishment: – hell. Here is a quote from Schleusner, a distinguished lexicographer and critic, that discusses the origin of the word “Gehenna”.

“Gehenna, originally a Hebrew word, which signifies valley of Hinnom. Here the Jews placed that brazen image of Moloch. It is said, on the authority of the ancient Rabbins, that to this image the idolatrous Jews were wont not only to sacrifice doves, pigeons, lambs, &c., but even to offer their own children. In the prophecies of Jeremiah (vii 31), this valley is called Tophet, from Toph, a drum; because they beat a drum during these horrible rites, lest the cries and shrieks of the infants who were burned should be heard by the assembly. At length these nefarious practices were abolished by Josiah, and the Jews brought back to the pure worship of God. 2 Kings xxiiI After this they held the place in such abomination that they cast into it all kinds of filth, and the carcasses of beasts, and the unburied bodies of criminals who had been executed. Continual fires were necessary in order to consume these, lest the putrefaction should infect the air; and there were always worms feeding on the remaining relics. Hence it came, that any severe punishment, especially an infamous kind of death, was described by the word Gehenna, or hell.” (Expositor for Sept. 1838; Schleusner’s Lexicon on Asbestos; Iliad, lib. i. 599; Cruse’s Eusebius, lib. vi., chap. 41. Note on page 259.)

When Jesus uses the word Gehenna, he is directly referring to these passages of Jeremiah. Tophet is another name for the valley of the son of Hinnom, or Gehenna.

Jer 7:31 And they have built the high places of Tophet, which is in the valley of the son of Hinnom, to burn their sons and their daughters in the fire; which I commanded them not, neither came it into my heart.
Jer 7:32 Therefore, behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that it shall no more be called Tophet, nor the valley
Jer 7:33 And the carcases of this people shall be meat for the fowls of the heaven, and for the beast of the earth; and none shall fray them away.
Jer 7:34 Then will I cause to cease from the cities of Judah, and from the streets of Jerusalem, the voice of mirth, and the voice of gladness, the voice of the bridegroom, and the voice of the bride: for the land shall be desolate.

Jer 19:11 And shalt say unto them, Thus saith the LORD of hosts; Even so will I break this people and this city, as one breaketh a potter’s vessel, that cannot be made whole again:and they shall bury them in Tophet, till there be no place to bury.

To put these verses in context, look at what was said by Jeremiah just one chapter earlier.

Jer 18:3 Then I went down to the potter’s house, and, behold, he wrought a work on the wheels.
Jer 18:4 And the vessel that he made of clay was marred in the hand of the potter: so he made it again another vessel, as seemed good to the potter to make it.
Jer 18:5 Then the word of the LORD came to me, saying,
Jer 18:6 O house of Israel, cannot I do with you as this potter? saith the LORD. Behold, as the clay is in the potter’s hand, so are ye in mine hand, O house of Israel.

God is clearly going to break these people like a clay pot, and bury them in Tophet, this place where the most terrible acts of disobedience were committed. But, he also says that we will make it again another vessel.

Remember this verse from earlier:

1Co 3:15 If any man’s work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.

This phrase “make this city as Tophet”, is meant to express complete and utter destruction, not eternal torment.

Jer 19:12 Thus will I do unto this place, saith the LORD, and to the inhabitants thereof, and even make this city as Tophet:
Jer 19:13 And the houses of Jerusalem, and the houses of the kings of Judah, shall be defiled as the place of Tophet, because of all the houses upon whose roofs they have burned incense unto all the host of heaven, and have poured out drink offerings unto other gods.

Remember also that the Old Covenant promises redemption and salvation.

Eze 36:25 Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you.
Eze 36:26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
Eze 36:27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.

Immediately following in Ezekiel 37 we are given this prophesy of the resurrection.

Eze 37:1 The hand of the LORD was upon me, and carried me out in the spirit of the LORD, and set me down in the midst of the valley which was full of bones,
Eze 37:2 And caused me to pass by them round about: and, behold, there were very many in the open valley; and, lo, they were very dry.
Eze 37:3 And he said unto me, Son of man, can these bones live? And I answered, O Lord GOD, thou knowest.
Eze 37:4 Again he said unto me, Prophesy upon these bones, and say unto them, O ye dry bones, hear the word of the LORD.
Eze 37:5 Thus saith the Lord GOD unto these bones; Behold, I will cause breath to enter into you, and ye shall live:
Eze 37:6 And I will lay sinews upon you, and will bring up flesh upon you, and cover you with skin, and put breath in you, and ye shall live; and ye shall know that I am the LORD.

Israel did not understand what was being promised, but this mystery is revealed in the New Testament.

1Co 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

Another study in the Milk Doctrines series is on resurrection.

http://aionios.com/milk-doctrines/

So when Jesus Christ spoke of Gehenna, he was referring to the stories of Tophet in the book of Jeremiah. He knew that Jeremiah 18 spoke of both the destruction of the clay vessel (Israel) and the vessel being made new, symbolizing their redemption.

So now let’s read these following verses with this new perspective.

Mat 5:22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

This is not eternal fire but is a warning that God will destroy our wicked works… remember the promise to make the vessel new as well from Jeremiah 18:4.

Mat 5:29 And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell (Gehenna).
Mat 5:30 And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell (Gehenna).

Is Christ saying that we should literally pluck out our eye or cut off your hand? No, it is a warning that wicked works will be judged because the fire of Gehenna symbolizes God’s Judgment.

Mat 23:15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell(Gehenna) than yourselves.

A child of Gehenna refers to someone that is disobeying God’s commands just like the hypocritical scribes and Pharisees. Keep in mind that we all break God’s commands and will suffer the judgment symbolized by Gehenna fire. This judgment is painful but does work for our good.

Heb 12:7 If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?
Heb 12:8 But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.

Heb 12:11 Now no chastening for the present seemeth to be joyous, but grievous: nevertheless afterward it yieldeth the peaceable fruit of righteousness unto them which are exercised thereby.

Tartarus
G5020
Τ tartaroo tar-tar-o’-o

Definitions:

1. The name of the subterranean region, doleful and dark, regarded by the ancient Greeks as the abode of the wicked dead, where they suffer punishment for their evil deeds; it answers to Gehenna of the Jews to thrust down to Tartarus, to hold captive in Tartarus. (http://www.biblestudytools.com/lexicons/greek/nas/tartaroo.html)

“Thrust down to Tartarus, and hold captive in Tartarus” are examples of how this word are used.

2. Tartarus, or Tartaros (Greek: Τάρταρος, from τάρταρον “tartar encrusting the sides of casks”), is the deep abyss in ancient Greek mythology that is used as a dungeon of torment and suffering for the wicked. A part of Hades (or the underworld) and, in turn, below Uranus (sky), Gaia (earth), and Pontus (sea), Tartarus is the place where, according to Plato in Gorgias (c. 400 BC), souls were judged after death and where the wicked received punishment. Like other primal entities (such as the earth and time), Tartarus is also a primordial force or deity.

Tartarus was used as a prison for the worst of villains, including Cronus and the otherTitans who were thrown in by Zeus. Uranus also threw his own children into Tartarus because he feared they might overthrow him. These mishaps included the “hundred-handed-ones”, the “cyclops” and the “giants”.15 (15http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tartarus)

Just as Gehenna brought powerful memories of destruction for the evil of the Jews, so does Tartarus do this for the Greeks. The Romans adopted much of their mythology from the Greeks, and the Romans were ruling over Israel at the time of Jesus’ ministry and writings of the Apostles thus making this reference to Taratarus quite powerful and relevant to Peter’s audience. In modern times this would be like saying, “your life will be a living hell”. It’s an expression that carries great weight and power given the common beliefs about hell.

So in the following verses Peter is explaining that false prophets will arise, and both these false prophets and those that follow them will suffer judgment from God. He is going to make a reference to Tartarus to express how those living in disobedience are trapped in the abode of death until judgment. Anyone that is carnally minded is spiritually dead. We have a carnal mind while we are yet living, so we can be physical alive and spiritually dead at the same time.

Rom 8:6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.

Luk 9:60 Jesus said unto him, Let the dead bury their dead: but go thou and preach the kingdom of God.

2Pe 2:1 But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Lord who bought them, and bring on themselves swift destruction.
2Pe 2:2 And many will follow their destructive ways, because of whom the way of truth will be blasphemed.
2Pe 2:3 By covetousness they will exploit you with deceptive words; for a long time their judgment has not been idle, and their destruction does not slumber.
2Pe 2:4 For if God did not spare the angels who sinned, but cast them down to hell (Tartarus) and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved for judgment;

The word angel in the Greek and Hebrew both mean messenger. This is not only a spiritual being as we have been often taught but rather can refer to any messenger, which can be a prophet or teacher in the scriptures.

Greek (G32) – aggelos
Hebrew (H4397) – mal’aÌ‚k

We have been these false teachers and have been or will be judged for our false teachings. We have also followed the wisdom of men and believed the lies of the false teachers in the world and in the churches. Until our time comes to be judged we are held in the abode of death, Taratrus, held with chains of darkness, awaiting judgment.

Pro 4:19 The way of the wicked is as darkness: they know not at what they stumble.

Joh 3:19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.

Joh 3:20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.

Anyone that does evil loves the darkness rather than the light and is symbolically trapped in that darkness until Christ drags them to the light to be reproved and judged. Peter is saying we all will be judged for the evil that we do.

2Pe 2:9 The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished:

I hope and pray that by now you can see how neither Jesus nor any of the Apostles taught that there would be eternal torment in hell. They all taught that there are severe consequences for evil and that we will all be judged for what we do. While this judgment feels quite grievous and severe as it is happening to us, we will eventually learn to be obedient and then experience the peaceable fruits of righteousness.

Heb 12:11 Now no chastening for the present seemeth to be joyous, but grievous: nevertheless afterward it yieldeth the peaceable fruit of righteousness unto them which are exercised thereby.

The Greek Word Translated as Eternal

Most Bible translations that Christians use today have terribly mistranslated the word “aion” and “aionios” as eternal or forever and ever.

Here is the strong’s definition of this word.

G165
αι ν aion ahee-ohn’

From the same as G104; properly an age; by extension perpetuity (also past); by implication the world; specifically (Jewish) a Messianic period (present or future): – age, course, eternal, (for) ever (-more), [n-]ever, (beginning of the, while the) world (began, without end). Compare G5550.

Here is another form of “aion” that we will look at as well. It is basically the adjective form of “aion”. So for example: hour is to hourly as aion is to aionios.

G166
αι νιος aionios ahee-o’-nee-os

From G165; perpetual (also used of past time, or past and future as well): – eternal, forever, everlasting, world (began).

In order to support the false doctrine of eternal punishment in hell these words have been distorted from their original meaning. Properly it means “an age” as Strong’s indicates above. However, the translators and commentators “extend” the definition to perpetuity.

Here are some examples of how different Bible versions translate this one word. First let me point out that the same word G165 is used in both places in this verse. The first time it is “eternal” then the SAME WORD is used for “time” or “world”.

Tit 1:2 in the hope of eternal (G166) life, which God, who does not lie, promised before the beginning of time (G166),

Tit 1:2 in hope of eternal (G166) life which God, who cannot lie, promised before time(G166) began, (NKJV)

Tit 1:2 in hope of eternal (G166) life, which God, who never lies, promised before the ages (G166) began, (ESV)

Tit 1:2 This truth gives them confidence that they have eternal(G166) life, which God—who does not lie—promised them before the world (G166) began. (NLT)

Do you see how conflicting this is? Here is the definition of our English word “eternal”.

Eternal – “without beginning or end; lasting forever; always existing (opposed to temporal): eternal life.”

  • Dictionary.com

How can the same word that supposedly means “without beginning or end” be translated as time, ages, and world? All of these have a beginning, and as we will see later the ages and the world will come to an end.

Here are two literal translations that are far more accurate:

Tit 1:2 in expectation of life eonian, which God, Who does not lie, promises before times eonian (CLV)

Tit 1:2 upon hope of life age-during, which God, who doth not lie, did promise beforetimes of ages, (YLT)

To underscore this point, let’s look at a few other verses:

Rom 16:25 Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world (G166) began, (KJV)

Rom 16:25 Now to Him Who is able to establish you in accord with my evangel, and the heralding of Christ Jesus in accord with the revelation of a secret hushed in times eonian(G166), (CLV)

I want to show you how badly the translators twist the Greek in order to make it fit their doctrine. Notice that there are TWO Greek works behind the translation of the word “world”.

Rom 16:25 NowG1161 to him that is of powerG1410 to stablishG4741 youG5209 accordingG2596 to myG3450 gospel,G2098 andG2532 theG3588 preachingG2782 of JesusG2424 Christ,G5547 accordingG2596 to the revelationG602 of the mystery,G3466 which was kept secretG4601 since the world began,G5550 G166

The first word is “G5550 – chronos” meaning time, and the second “G166- aionios” meaning pertaining to an age. In the KJV they just ignore both words and translate it as “world”. To demonstrate the inconsistency, there is a different word used to refer to the world:

G2889

Κ ος kosmos kos’-mos

Probably from the base of G2865; orderly arrangement, that is, decoration; by implication the world (in a wide or narrow sense, including its inhabitants, literally or figuratively [morally]): – adorning, world.

Eph 1:4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world(G2889), that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

Mat 5:14 Ye are the light of the world (G2889). A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid.

Aionios and kosmos are clearly two very different words with very different meanings. When the writers of the New Testament wanted to talk about the physical world, they used kosmos, and when they wanted to discuss the ages they used aion or aionios. To translate both as world is very misleading. Remember, God has caused this to hide the meaning from the masses.

Let’s look at one more example, this time in the NIV.

2Ti 1:9 He has saved us and called us to a holy life—not because of anything we have done but because of his own purpose and grace. This grace was given us in Christ Jesus before the beginning of time, (NIV)

This is the exact same phrase as Romans 16:25, chronos aionios. This should be translated as “times eonian”, or the “times of the ages”. However NIV inserts a word that is not in the Greek. There is not a word for “beginning” in the Greek. Look for yourself below:

2Ti 1:9 Who hath savedG4982 us,G2248 andG2532 calledG2564 us with an holyG40 calling,G2821 notG3756 accordingG2596 to ourG2257 works,G2041 butG235 accordingG2596 to his ownG2398 purposeG4286 andG2532 grace,G5485 which was givenG1325 usG2254 inG1722 ChristG5547 JesusG2424 beforeG4253 the world began,G5550 G166

G5550 – chronosG166 – aionios

Nowhere in all of the scriptures does “aionios” ever mean the beginning or began, yet this is how they are translating the word here. These are just a few of the examples of how “aionios” is not translated correctly.

Here is a section of Mr. Thayer’s paper that describes how Greek authors use the words aion and aionios, which clearly demonstrates that it does NOT mean eternal.

2. Usage of Greek Authors. The Greek writers constantly employ these words in a way to exclude the idea of endless, and to illustrate the meaning of indefinite time, the duration to be determined by the general scope of the subject.

Plato has the phrase “eternal (aionios) drunkenness;” but one can hardly believe he meant endless drunkenness.

Eusebius, one of the early Christian writers, speaking of the Phoenician philosophy as presented by Sanchoniathon, says of the darkness and chaos which preceded creation: “They continued for a long eternity” – (dia polun aiona). Here the word is qualified by long, showing that eternity means simply age or time indefinite, long or short.

“And these they called aionios, eternal, hearing that they had performed the sacred rites for three entire generations.” In Solom. Parab. This eternity was three generations long, or about one hundred years. “Alter not the eternal boundaries.” If “eternal” implied endless, they could not be altered.

In a poem ascribed to Errina Lesbia there is a similar use of the adjective “greatest” in connection with aion – “the greatest eternity that overturns all things,” &c., ho megistos aion. The greatest eternity implies a less one; and is demonstrative proof that the noun aion and the adjective aionios convey the idea not of strictly endless duration, but only of duration indefinitely continued.

Philo and Josephus wrote in Greek, though Jews by birth. The former uses the very phrase found in Matt. xxv 46, “everlasting punishment” – kolasis aionios – as follows: – Speaking of the manner in which certain persons retaliate an injury, he designates it as “a deep hatred and everlasting punishment.” Of course the everlasting punishment in this case is inflicted by men in this life, and cannot, therefore, last much above “three-score years and ten.”

Josephus employs the word in such phrases as these: “the everlasting name of the patriarchs;” “the everlasting glory of the Jewish nation,” which ended two thousand years ago; “the everlasting reputation” of Herod; “the everlasting worship” in the temple, which also ceased nearly eighteen hundred years ago; “the everlasting imprisonment” to which John, the tyrant, was condemned by the Romans, though it could not continue but a few years at most.

These Jewish-Greek authors were contemporary with the New Testament authors, and are therefore good authority for the usage and meaning of the words in review, embracing both the Greek and Jewish elements. Philo and Josephus, Matthew and Luke, allowing for the difference in education, stood in the same relation to the Greek language, and the Jewish usage of it, and what may be affirmed of one may be affirmed with equal force of the others. And, surely, nothing is more obvious than that the first named did not understand the words aion and aionios as meaning anything more than indefinite time.

Another decisive fact is this: The Sibylline Oracles, Clemens Alexandrinus, Origen, and others of the Christian Fathers, who are acknowledged believers and teachers of the final restoration, often use the phrases “everlasting fire,” “everlasting punishment,” &c., in regard to the wicked. Nothing can more conclusively show that the expressions are not to be taken in the sense of endless; for, though they believed in everlasting punishment, they also believed it would end in the restoration of those who suffered. (http://aionios.com/study_notes/origin.of.endless.punishment.pdf Pg. 70)

3. Scripture Usage. The Scripture usage will be found in perfect harmony with the foregoing facts. The Hebrew word, which is the equivalent of the Greek, is thus used: “I will give thee the land of Canaan for an everlasting possession.” Gen. xvii 8. And in verse 12, the covenant of circumcision is called “an everlasting covenant.” And yet the Jews were driven from the land of Canaan, and the covenant of circumcision was abolished, eighteen hundred years ago! So the priesthood of Aaron is called “an everlasting priesthood,” and yet it was put aside by God’s authority, and the priesthood of Christ set up in its place. Exod. xl. 15.

Now, did Jehovah use this word “everlasting” to mean endless? If He did, then He has broken His promise to the Jews in three several instances; or, if not this, the priesthood of Christ is an imposture, and the old Covenant of the Law is still in force! See, also, Levit. xvi 34, xxv 46; Exod. xxi 6.

Jonah ii 1-6, is another illustration, where “forever” lasted only three days and three nights! showing the folly of arguing for the endlessness of punishment on the strength of such elastic words as these. The punishment of Jonah is described by the term “forever,” though it lasted only seventy- two hours; and there is no more reason for supposing the term to mean endless in other cases, when applied to punishment, than here. There is no more authority for saying the “everlasting punishment” of Matt. xxv 46, is endless, than for saying the “forever” punishment of Jonah, or the “everlasting priesthood” of Exod. xl. 15, is endless.”

Here is a marvelous quote from Mr. Thayer’s paper that demonstrates thoroughly that the Greek and Hebrew words translated as everlasting without a doubt do not have that meaning in scripture.

“We see the word everlasting applied to God’s covenant with the Jews; to the priesthood of Aaron; to the statutes of Moses; to the time the Jews were to possess the land of Canaan; to the mountains and hills; and to the doors of the Jewish temple. We see the word forever applied to the duration of a man’s earthly existence; to the time a child was to abide in the temple; to the continuance of Gehazi’s leprosy; to the duration of the life of David; to the duration of a king’s life; to the duration of the earth; to the time the Jews were to possess the land of Canaan; to the time they were to dwell in Jerusalem; to the time a servant was to abide with his master; to the time Jerusalem was to remain a city; to the duration of the Jewish temple; to the laws and ordinances of Moses; to the time David was to be king over Israel; to the throne of Solomon; to the stones that were set up at Jordan; to the time the righteous were to inhabit the earth; and to the time Jonah was in the fish’s belly. We find the phrase forever and ever applied to the hosts of heaven, or the sun, moon, and stars; to a writing contained in a book; to the smoke that went up from the burning land of Idumea; and to the time the Jews were to dwell in Judea. We find the word never applied to the time the fire was to burn on the Jewish altar; to the time the sword was to remain in the house of David; to God’s covenant with the Jews; to the time the Jews should not experience shame; to the time the house of David was to reign over Israel; to the time the Jews were not to open their mouths because of their shame; to the time those who fell by death should remain in their fallen state; and to the time judgment was not executed.

But the law covenant is abolished; the priesthood of Aaron and his sons has ceased; the ordinances, and laws, and statutes of Moses are abrogated; the Jews have long since been dispossessed of the land of Canaan, have been driven from Judea, and God has brought upon them a reproach and a shame; the man to the duration of whose life the word forever was applied is dead; David is dead, and has ceased to reign over Israel; the throne of Solomon no longer exists; the Jewish temple is demolished, and Jerusalem has been overthrown, so that there is not left “one stone upon another;” the servants of the Jews have been freed from their masters; Gehazi is dead, and no one believes he carried his leprosy with him into the future world; the stones that were set up at Jordan have been removed, and the smoke that went up from the burning land of Idumea has ceased to ascend; the righteous do not inherit the earth endlessly, and no one believes that the mountains and hills, as such, are indestructible; the fire that burnt on the Jewish altar has long since ceased to burn; judgment has been executed; and no Christian believes that those who fall by death will never be awakened from their slumbers. Now, as these words are used in this limited sense in the Scriptures, why should it be supposed that they express endless duration when applied to punishment?” (http://aionios.com/study_notes/origin.of.endless.punishment.pdf Pg. 70-72)

So now with this new understanding of the words aion and aionios let’s examine all the scriptures that supposedly support the doctrine of eternal torment.

Jud 1:7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

We discussed this verse much earlier in this paper and saw that the fire that burned Sodom and Gomorrah is certainly not burning today and therefore it is NOT eternal.

Jud 1:12 These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots;
Jud 1:13 Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever (aion).

We saw earlier in 2 Peter 2:4 that the disobedient are reserved in darkness to be reserved for judgment. How can this mean forever if it is a temporary state of bondage in darkness until judgment?

2Pe 2:4 For if God did not spare the angels who sinned, but cast them down to hell (Tartarus) and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved for judgment;

2Th 1:8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
2Th 1:9 Who shall be punished with everlasting (aionios) destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;

This destruction is thorough and complete resulting in our salvation, and undoubtedly it is not a perpetual never ending punishment.

Rev 14:11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

Here is a better translation of this verse:

Rev 14:11 and the smoke of their torment doth go up to ages of ages; and they have no rest day and night, who are bowing before the beast and his image, also if any doth receive the mark of his name. (YLT)

In Greek ages of ages is aionios aionios, which is the same grammatical construction as holy of holies – hagion hagion. Just as holy of holies indicates that of all the holy places this is the most holy, so does ages of ages point out that of all the ages, the ages of judgment is the most important. The ages of judgment are when our process of salvation begins. This study covers this topic in far greater detail. (http://aionios.com/2012-09/ages-eons/)

Heb 6:2 Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.

Eternal judgment is the last of the Milk Doctrines which describes a process of judgment that lasts for a period of time long enough to chasten us from all evil and make us like Christ.

Our last verse is a quote from Christ himself.

Mat 25:46 And these shall go away into everlasting (aionios) punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

It has been clearly demonstrated that Christ did not mean the punishment was eternal but rather an intense process that destroys all of the evil within us.

So this question follows, “If punishment is not eternal, then is life in Christ not eternal?”

The life of this age is to know Jesus Christ and his doctrine, and to do what he commands.

Joh 17:3 And this is life eternal (aionios), that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

This age is the age in which all of mankind is brought to the knowledge of Christ and saved. After this is accomplished, the age of salvation is over, but that does not mean that we cease to know Christ or dwell with him because we will then be immortal.

1Co 15:53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.

After death is destroyed and everyone has been redeemed, then the fullness of God’s spirit will be within all.

1Co 15:28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.

God has no beginning and no end. If his Spirit is within us and we are immortal then we will forever dwell with him and the rest of humanity in perfect unity.

Here is an article by Mike Vinson for more on this topic. (http://www.iswasandwillbe.com/What_Is_Life_Aionios.php)

Conclusion

I hope and pray that God will give you the ability to see that he is not going to torture anyone forever, but rather desires that all men will be saved and accomplishes this through his righteous judgment.

1Ti 4:10 For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

1Ti 2:3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;
1Ti 2:4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

God wills that all men are to be saved, and he does all his pleasure.

Isa 46:10 Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:

Here are Jesus Christ’s own words.

Joh 12:32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.

The understanding that hell is not eternal torment and that God is going to save all men through a process of judgment is part of the Milk of the word of God. If you are just now realizing this marvelous truth, then it is a joyous time to finally see the true Gospel of God. You are now a babe in Christ. You will need to study and learn the Milk Doctrines, and then progress beyond that to strong meat of the word. There are many more mysteries of God hidden in his word to be discovered.

1Pe 2:2 As newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, that ye may grow thereby.

Heb 5:13 For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe.
Heb 5:14 But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.

Heb 6:1 Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,

Please study the milk doctrines thoroughly:

The_Purpose_For_The_Six_Milk_Doctrines_Of_The_Lord.php

http://tryingthespirits.com/milk-doctrines/

http://www.iswasandwillbe.com/Milk_repentance.php

http://www.iswasandwillbe.com/Milk_judgment.php

http://www.iswasandwillbe.com/Milk_baptism.php

http://www.iswasandwillbe.com/Milk_hands.php

http://www.iswasandwillbe.com/Milk_faith.php

http://tryingthespirits.com/study_notes/Resurrection_from_the_Dead_part_1.pdf and http://tryingthespirits.com/study_notes/Resurrection_Part_2.pdf

Milk Doctrine Studies

Pray that the Lord would make you humble and teachable like a little child, for you have only scratched the surface of the mysteries of God.

Mat 18:3 And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.
Mat 18:4 Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven.

Please feel free to write  with any questions you may have.  Mitch’s email is mitchkuhn@gmail.com

You will probably want to read the following article about the truth of heaven in light of this new understanding of hell.

“What and Where is Heaven”” at http://www.iswasandwillbe.com/whatwhereheaven.php With much love in Christ,